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  2. PTL-2515

RH124-615: Possible inconsistencies in timing between overview table and chapter breakdown

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    • RH124 - RHEL 8.2 1 20200928
    • RH124
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    • ILT, ROLE, VT
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      Description: Reported by Travis in RHLC: https://learn.redhat.com/t5/Red-Hat-Instructor-Discussions/RH124-Instructor-Guide-Timings/m-p/18203/thread-id/3813

      This is my first time teaching/delivering a VT version of the RH124 and it is also the first time I've delivered the new version of the RH124 as I've only delivered about one other RH124 total. The comment and question I have for instructors out there is regarding time management. What I used throughout the week has been to not have any scheduled breaks and notified students that breaks were built-in to the time allotted for the GEs and EoC labs. I also cut lunch shorter in order to manage time so lunch I typically paired with a GE and EoC lab so we had about an hour break, but really there was only about 30-40 minutes for lunch if you take away the time completing the exercises. I was lucky in that I had a smaller group six (6) people, but I was curious as opinions since it is the same length as a regular ILT course and we lose time on the first day with the class introduction and into to Bluejeans and ROLE. The other thing I did prior to class start was send an e-mail to all students with the link and instructions for the PDF download and some basics on how we would be starting which helped cut the normal VT start time down. Just wondering what other things people that deliver this course all the time do.

      I also noticed that the timings in the IG were way off in terms of the daily time and course timing section vs. the actual chapter timings that were found on the chapter intro pages. I initially planned based on the course timing chart at the beginning, but I did a pivot and adjusted delivery time after the week started. 

      @bonnevil - can you explain why the course timing doesn't match the chapter timing?

      For example, Chapter 12 shows here at 125 minutes, but it is actually 140 minutes when you go to the Chapter 12 timing breakdown. So we are already 15 minutes off for the daily time. Chapter 13 indicates it takes 120 minutes while Chapter 14 indicates that it takes 130 minutes, so we are now another 25 minutes off for the daily time. If you take that into consideration, the Total for day should be 390 minutes and not 350 minutes as for just the single day, we were a total of 40 minutes off the mark.

      I realize that course timings are a guesstimate, but I will say at least here, the chapter timing for the individual chapters seemed close to being reasonable and realistic. I also know that these timings are a best guess and we are attempting to fit as much material as possible in the course and a given day. I can only guess that what happened with the Course Timing section is that someone changed the time of individual sessions to fix a given time window so it could reflect extra time for lunch and breaks. However, this would be unfair to the instructor and students as if an instructor sees the overall course timing and plans extra breaks and lunch accordingly, but follows the individual chapter timing, you end up missing the mark. I spent a little bit of extra time in the morning and afternoon with students and assigned homework then analyzed where the time went wrong (which is how I discovered many of these discrepencies).

       

            rht-psweany Philip Sweany (Inactive)
            rht-sbonnevi Steven Bonneville
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