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[virtio-win] Virtio drivers fail to install in Windows Server 2016 with non-English locale

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      What were you trying to do that didn't work?

      Installing the virtio-win drivers manually (using the installation wizard) in a Windows Server 2019 with German language doesn't work. Most devices are left without a driver after a reboot.

      Trying to add the drivers manually int he device manager fails for some of them, for example I'm unable to install the VirtIO Ethernet adapter driver.

      What is the impact of this issue to you?

      Huge impact as customer is planning to migrate to OpenShift Virtualization Windows VMs with German language.

      Please provide the package NVR for which the bug is seen:

      registry.redhat.io/container-native-virtualization/virtio-win-rhel9:v4.17.4-1

      virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5.noarch

      How reproducible is this bug?:

      Always

      Steps to reproduce

      1. In OpenShift Virtualization 4.17, install a Windows Server 2016 with German language and virtio devices.
      2. Run virtio-win-guest-tools.exe from the ISO and accept all defaults.

      Expected results

      All virtio drivers installed. In Windows device manager, no device should be missing a driver.

      Actual results

      Many devices are missing drivers.

            [RHEL-79946] [virtio-win] Virtio drivers fail to install in Windows Server 2016 with non-English locale

            rhn-support-jortialc
            Can reproduce the problem. Thanks a lot!
            Can I ask you to add a balloon device and see if it makes any difference?
            Another question is if the problem can also be reproduced on WS2019/Win10 1809
            or more recent versions?

            Thank you again.
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rhn-support-jortialc Can reproduce the problem. Thanks a lot! Can I ask you to add a balloon device and see if it makes any difference? Another question is if the problem can also be reproduced on WS2019/Win10 1809 or more recent versions? Thank you again. Vadim.

            rhn-support-jortialc

            Can you let me know the password as well?
            You can send it over email or slack to
            vrozenfe@redhat.com

            Thanks,
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rhn-support-jortialc Can you let me know the password as well? You can send it over email or slack to vrozenfe@redhat.com Thanks, Vadim.

            Juan Orti added a comment -

            rhn-support-vrozenfe qemu command line:

            /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm -name guest=test_win2k19-de,debug-threads=on -S -object {"qom-type":"secret","id":"masterKey0","format":"raw","file":"/var/run/kubevirt-private/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-1-test_win2k19-de/master-key.aes"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/usr/share/OVMF/OVMF_CODE.secboot.fd","node-name":"libvirt-pflash0-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap"} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-pflash0-format","read-only":true,"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-pflash0-storage"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt-private/libvirt/qemu/nvram/win2k19-de_VARS.fd","node-name":"libvirt-pflash1-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap"} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-pflash1-format","read-only":false,"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-pflash1-storage"} -machine pc-q35-rhel9.4.0,usb=off,smm=on,dump-guest-core=off,pflash0=libvirt-pflash0-format,pflash1=libvirt-pflash1-format,hpet=off,acpi=on -accel kvm -cpu EPYC-Rome,x2apic=on,tsc-deadline=on,hypervisor=on,tsc-adjust=on,spec-ctrl=on,stibp=on,arch-capabilities=on,ssbd=on,cmp-legacy=on,ibrs=on,amd-ssbd=on,virt-ssbd=on,lbrv=on,tsc-scale=on,vmcb-clean=on,pause-filter=on,pfthreshold=on,v-vmsave-vmload=on,vgif=on,svme-addr-chk=on,lfence-always-serializing=on,null-sel-clr-base=on,rdctl-no=on,skip-l1dfl-vmentry=on,mds-no=on,pschange-mc-no=on,gds-no=on,xsaves=off,hv-time=on,hv-relaxed=on,hv-vapic=on,hv-spinlocks=0x1fff,hv-vpindex=on,hv-runtime=on,hv-synic=on,hv-stimer=on,hv-stimer-direct=on,hv-reset=on,hv-frequencies=on,hv-reenlightenment=on,hv-tlbflush=on,hv-ipi=on -global driver=cfi.pflash01,property=secure,value=on -m size=4194304k,maxmem=16777216k -overcommit mem-lock=off -smp 1,maxcpus=4,sockets=4,dies=1,clusters=1,cores=1,threads=1 -object {"qom-type":"iothread","id":"iothread1"} -object {"qom-type":"memory-backend-ram","id":"ram-node0","size":4294967296} -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-3,memdev=ram-node0 -uuid 60ac5bfc-2b1c-5e9a-a1ce-f3ebfea203de -smbios type=1,manufacturer=Red Hat,product=OpenShift Virtualization,version=4.17.7,uuid=60ac5bfc-2b1c-5e9a-a1ce-f3ebfea203de,sku=4.17.7,family=Red Hat -no-user-config -nodefaults -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,fd=18,server=on,wait=off -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=control -rtc base=utc,driftfix=slew -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=delay -no-shutdown -boot strict=on -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":16,"chassis":1,"id":"pci.1","bus":"pcie.0","multifunction":true,"addr":"0x2"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":17,"chassis":2,"id":"pci.2","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x1"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":18,"chassis":3,"id":"pci.3","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x2"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":19,"chassis":4,"id":"pci.4","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x3"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":20,"chassis":5,"id":"pci.5","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x4"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":21,"chassis":6,"id":"pci.6","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x5"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":22,"chassis":7,"id":"pci.7","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x6"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":23,"chassis":8,"id":"pci.8","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x7"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":24,"chassis":9,"id":"pci.9","bus":"pcie.0","multifunction":true,"addr":"0x3"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":25,"chassis":10,"id":"pci.10","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x3.0x1"} -device {"driver":"qemu-xhci","id":"usb","bus":"pci.5","addr":"0x0"} -device {"driver":"virtio-scsi-pci-non-transitional","id":"scsi0","bus":"pci.6","addr":"0x0"} -device {"driver":"virtio-serial-pci-non-transitional","id":"virtio-serial0","bus":"pci.7","addr":"0x0"} -blockdev {"driver":"host_device","filename":"/dev/rootdisk","aio":"native","node-name":"libvirt-4-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-4-format","read-only":false,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-4-storage"} -device {"driver":"virtio-blk-pci-non-transitional","bus":"pci.8","addr":"0x0","drive":"libvirt-4-format","id":"ua-rootdisk","bootindex":2,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt/container-disks/disk_1.img","node-name":"libvirt-3-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-3-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-3-storage"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt-ephemeral-disks/disk-data/windows-drivers-disk/disk.qcow2","node-name":"libvirt-2-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-2-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"qcow2","file":"libvirt-2-storage","backing":"libvirt-3-format"} -device {"driver":"ide-cd","bus":"ide.0","drive":"libvirt-2-format","id":"ua-windows-drivers-disk","bootindex":3,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -blockdev {"driver":"host_device","filename":"/dev/installation-cdrom","aio":"native","node-name":"libvirt-1-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-1-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-1-storage"} -device {"driver":"ide-cd","bus":"ide.1","drive":"libvirt-1-format","id":"ua-installation-cdrom","bootindex":1,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -netdev {"type":"tap","fd":"19","vhost":true,"vhostfd":"21","id":"hostua-default"} -device {"driver":"virtio-net-pci-non-transitional","host_mtu":1400,"netdev":"hostua-default","id":"ua-default","mac":"02:9b:cf:00:00:04","bus":"pci.1","addr":"0x0","romfile":""} -chardev socket,id=charserial0,fd=16,server=on,wait=off -device {"driver":"isa-serial","chardev":"charserial0","id":"serial0","index":0} -chardev socket,id=charchannel0,fd=17,server=on,wait=off -device {"driver":"virtserialport","bus":"virtio-serial0.0","nr":1,"chardev":"charchannel0","id":"channel0","name":"org.qemu.guest_agent.0"} -device {"driver":"usb-tablet","id":"ua-tablet","bus":"usb.0","port":"1"} -audiodev {"id":"audio1","driver":"none"} -vnc vnc=unix:/var/run/kubevirt-private/7041b26c-1fed-4683-b9bc-56c2acf4d22a/virt-vnc,audiodev=audio1 -device {"driver":"VGA","id":"video0","vgamem_mb":16,"bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x1"} -global ICH9-LPC.noreboot=off -watchdog-action reset -device {"driver":"virtio-balloon-pci-non-transitional","id":"balloon0","free-page-reporting":true,"bus":"pci.9","addr":"0x0"} -sandbox on,obsolete=deny,elevateprivileges=deny,spawn=deny,resourcecontrol=deny -msg timestamp=on

            Juan Orti added a comment - rhn-support-vrozenfe qemu command line: /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm -name guest=test_win2k19-de,debug-threads=on -S -object {"qom-type":"secret","id":"masterKey0","format":"raw","file":"/var/run/kubevirt-private/libvirt/qemu/lib/domain-1-test_win2k19-de/master-key.aes"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/usr/share/OVMF/OVMF_CODE.secboot.fd","node-name":"libvirt-pflash0-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap"} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-pflash0-format","read-only":true,"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-pflash0-storage"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt-private/libvirt/qemu/nvram/win2k19-de_VARS.fd","node-name":"libvirt-pflash1-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap"} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-pflash1-format","read-only":false,"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-pflash1-storage"} -machine pc-q35-rhel9.4.0,usb=off,smm=on,dump-guest-core=off,pflash0=libvirt-pflash0-format,pflash1=libvirt-pflash1-format,hpet=off,acpi=on -accel kvm -cpu EPYC-Rome,x2apic=on,tsc-deadline=on,hypervisor=on,tsc-adjust=on,spec-ctrl=on,stibp=on,arch-capabilities=on,ssbd=on,cmp-legacy=on,ibrs=on,amd-ssbd=on,virt-ssbd=on,lbrv=on,tsc-scale=on,vmcb-clean=on,pause-filter=on,pfthreshold=on,v-vmsave-vmload=on,vgif=on,svme-addr-chk=on,lfence-always-serializing=on,null-sel-clr-base=on,rdctl-no=on,skip-l1dfl-vmentry=on,mds-no=on,pschange-mc-no=on,gds-no=on,xsaves=off,hv-time=on,hv-relaxed=on,hv-vapic=on,hv-spinlocks=0x1fff,hv-vpindex=on,hv-runtime=on,hv-synic=on,hv-stimer=on,hv-stimer-direct=on,hv-reset=on,hv-frequencies=on,hv-reenlightenment=on,hv-tlbflush=on,hv-ipi=on -global driver=cfi.pflash01,property=secure,value=on -m size=4194304k,maxmem=16777216k -overcommit mem-lock=off -smp 1,maxcpus=4,sockets=4,dies=1,clusters=1,cores=1,threads=1 -object {"qom-type":"iothread","id":"iothread1"} -object {"qom-type":"memory-backend-ram","id":"ram-node0","size":4294967296} -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-3,memdev=ram-node0 -uuid 60ac5bfc-2b1c-5e9a-a1ce-f3ebfea203de -smbios type=1,manufacturer=Red Hat,product=OpenShift Virtualization,version=4.17.7,uuid=60ac5bfc-2b1c-5e9a-a1ce-f3ebfea203de,sku=4.17.7,family=Red Hat -no-user-config -nodefaults -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,fd=18,server=on,wait=off -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=control -rtc base=utc,driftfix=slew -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=delay -no-shutdown -boot strict=on -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":16,"chassis":1,"id":"pci.1","bus":"pcie.0","multifunction":true,"addr":"0x2"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":17,"chassis":2,"id":"pci.2","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x1"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":18,"chassis":3,"id":"pci.3","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x2"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":19,"chassis":4,"id":"pci.4","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x3"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":20,"chassis":5,"id":"pci.5","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x4"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":21,"chassis":6,"id":"pci.6","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x5"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":22,"chassis":7,"id":"pci.7","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x6"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":23,"chassis":8,"id":"pci.8","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x2.0x7"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":24,"chassis":9,"id":"pci.9","bus":"pcie.0","multifunction":true,"addr":"0x3"} -device {"driver":"pcie-root-port","port":25,"chassis":10,"id":"pci.10","bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x3.0x1"} -device {"driver":"qemu-xhci","id":"usb","bus":"pci.5","addr":"0x0"} -device {"driver":"virtio-scsi-pci-non-transitional","id":"scsi0","bus":"pci.6","addr":"0x0"} -device {"driver":"virtio-serial-pci-non-transitional","id":"virtio-serial0","bus":"pci.7","addr":"0x0"} -blockdev {"driver":"host_device","filename":"/dev/rootdisk","aio":"native","node-name":"libvirt-4-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-4-format","read-only":false,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-4-storage"} -device {"driver":"virtio-blk-pci-non-transitional","bus":"pci.8","addr":"0x0","drive":"libvirt-4-format","id":"ua-rootdisk","bootindex":2,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt/container-disks/disk_1.img","node-name":"libvirt-3-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-3-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-3-storage"} -blockdev {"driver":"file","filename":"/var/run/kubevirt-ephemeral-disks/disk-data/windows-drivers-disk/disk.qcow2","node-name":"libvirt-2-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-2-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"qcow2","file":"libvirt-2-storage","backing":"libvirt-3-format"} -device {"driver":"ide-cd","bus":"ide.0","drive":"libvirt-2-format","id":"ua-windows-drivers-disk","bootindex":3,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -blockdev {"driver":"host_device","filename":"/dev/installation-cdrom","aio":"native","node-name":"libvirt-1-storage","auto-read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false}} -blockdev {"node-name":"libvirt-1-format","read-only":true,"discard":"unmap","cache":{"direct":true,"no-flush":false},"driver":"raw","file":"libvirt-1-storage"} -device {"driver":"ide-cd","bus":"ide.1","drive":"libvirt-1-format","id":"ua-installation-cdrom","bootindex":1,"write-cache":"on","werror":"stop","rerror":"stop"} -netdev {"type":"tap","fd":"19","vhost":true,"vhostfd":"21","id":"hostua-default"} -device {"driver":"virtio-net-pci-non-transitional","host_mtu":1400,"netdev":"hostua-default","id":"ua-default","mac":"02:9b:cf:00:00:04","bus":"pci.1","addr":"0x0","romfile":""} -chardev socket,id=charserial0,fd=16,server=on,wait=off -device {"driver":"isa-serial","chardev":"charserial0","id":"serial0","index":0} -chardev socket,id=charchannel0,fd=17,server=on,wait=off -device {"driver":"virtserialport","bus":"virtio-serial0.0","nr":1,"chardev":"charchannel0","id":"channel0","name":"org.qemu.guest_agent.0"} -device {"driver":"usb-tablet","id":"ua-tablet","bus":"usb.0","port":"1"} -audiodev {"id":"audio1","driver":"none"} -vnc vnc=unix:/var/run/kubevirt-private/7041b26c-1fed-4683-b9bc-56c2acf4d22a/virt-vnc,audiodev=audio1 -device {"driver":"VGA","id":"video0","vgamem_mb":16,"bus":"pcie.0","addr":"0x1"} -global ICH9-LPC.noreboot=off -watchdog-action reset -device {"driver":"virtio-balloon-pci-non-transitional","id":"balloon0","free-page-reporting":true,"bus":"pci.9","addr":"0x0"} -sandbox on,obsolete=deny,elevateprivileges=deny,spawn=deny,resourcecontrol=deny -msg timestamp=on

            rhn-support-jortialc
            Can you please post the qemu command line as well?

            Thanks,
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rhn-support-jortialc Can you please post the qemu command line as well? Thanks, Vadim.

            rhn-support-jortialc
            Thanks a lot,
            Just in case it's not a production system, would it be possible to grab the entire image?
            It would be much easier for me if I could run it locally on my home server.

            Best,
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rhn-support-jortialc Thanks a lot, Just in case it's not a production system, would it be possible to grab the entire image? It would be much easier for me if I could run it locally on my home server. Best, Vadim.

            Thanks a lot. I was trying de_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_4f2b107a.iso and ru_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_8b9aa745.iso without success. But it can be that it also depends on the qemu parameters/command line.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - Thanks a lot. I was trying de_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_4f2b107a.iso and ru_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_8b9aa745.iso without success. But it can be that it also depends on the qemu parameters/command line.

            Wenkang Ji added a comment -

            rhn-support-vrozenfe No problem, Vadim. I will let you know once I reproduced this issue.

            Wenkang Ji added a comment - rhn-support-vrozenfe No problem, Vadim. I will let you know once I reproduced this issue.

            rh-ee-wji
            Hi Wecom,
            By any chance, when you have some spare time, can you please recreate the reproducer for that issue?
            I tried DE and RU versions of WS 2019 Data centre but cannot reproduce the issue so far.

            Thanks a lot.
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rh-ee-wji Hi Wecom, By any chance, when you have some spare time, can you please recreate the reproducer for that issue? I tried DE and RU versions of WS 2019 Data centre but cannot reproduce the issue so far. Thanks a lot. Vadim.

            Wenkang Ji added a comment -

            Hi All,

            QE has reproduced the issue in our internal host.  All the snapshots and logs are attached in QE Task(RHEL-80788
            [QE Task]: Reproduction problem tracker [virtio-win] Virtio drivers fail to install in Windows Server 2016 with non-English locale).

            Packages:

            • virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5
            • kernel-5.14.0-562.el9.x86_64
            • edk2-ovmf-20241117-2.el9.noarch
            • swtpm-0.8.0-2.el9_4.x86_64
            • qemu-kvm-core-9.1.0-15.el9.x86_64

            Reproduced Steps:

            1. Setup a German ws2019 server by "de_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_4f2b107a.iso"
            2. Run virtio-win-guest-tools.exe in the virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5.iso and accept all defaults.
            3. Run virtio-win-gt-x64  in the virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5.iso and accept all defaults.

            Expected results
            All virtio drivers installed. In Windows device manager, no device should be missing a driver.

            Actual results
            MSI works well, but the bundler could not be installed.

             

            Regards,

            Wecom

            Wenkang Ji added a comment - Hi All, QE has reproduced the issue in our internal host.  All the snapshots and logs are attached in QE Task(RHEL-80788 [QE Task] : Reproduction problem tracker [virtio-win] Virtio drivers fail to install in Windows Server 2016 with non-English locale). Packages: virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5 kernel-5.14.0-562.el9.x86_64 edk2-ovmf-20241117-2.el9.noarch swtpm-0.8.0-2.el9_4.x86_64 qemu-kvm-core-9.1.0-15.el9.x86_64 Reproduced Steps: Setup a German ws2019 server by "de_windows_server_2019_updated_aug_2019_x64_dvd_4f2b107a.iso" Run virtio-win-guest-tools.exe in the virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5.iso and accept all defaults. Run virtio-win-gt-x64  in the virtio-win-1.9.44-0.el9_5.iso and accept all defaults. Expected results All virtio drivers installed. In Windows device manager, no device should be missing a driver. Actual results MSI works well, but the bundler could not be installed.   Regards, Wecom

            rhn-support-jortialc
            can you please share SetupAPI.dev.log from that system
            ( https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/install/setupapi-text-logs ) ?
            Thanks,
            Vadim.

            Vadim Rozenfeld added a comment - rhn-support-jortialc can you please share SetupAPI.dev.log from that system ( https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/install/setupapi-text-logs ) ? Thanks, Vadim.

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              rhn-support-jortialc Juan Orti
              virt-maint virt-maint
              Wenkang Ji Wenkang Ji
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