<opalka> dmlloyd, I found ugly dependency - http://fpaste.org/9UXj/
<stuartdouglas> opalka: I actually hacked up something last night to try and find those problems
<opalka> dmlloyd, stuartdouglas this is the call resulting to this dependency - we're using log4j configurators - http://fpaste.org/aKXp/
<dmlloyd> why?
<dmlloyd> (a) you shouldn't do that, (b) to fix the problem add "javax.api" to log4j's module dep
<opalka> dmlloyd, this is question for alessio. I have no idea? Probably Alessio want's to use log4j config facility
<dmlloyd> ok well if we're doing that it's pretty lame because we go through many hoops to avoid using the log4j config facility
<opalka> dmlloyd, method javadoc isn't more descriptive as well - http://fpaste.org/DyVx/ I'll need to ask Alessio
<opalka> dmlloyd, but just to confirm, we don't want org.apache.logging -> org.w3c.dom dependency in AS7, right ?

• opalka don't like this dependency
  <dmlloyd> no, org.apache.logging is something completely different
  <dmlloyd> it should be org.apache.log4j -> javax.api
  <opalka> dmlloyd, and do we want this dependency ?
  <dmlloyd> yeah, it's fine to add
  <dmlloyd> but we don't want this manual log4j configuration